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ke charge of your score. thanks you for joining us and thank you for welcoming me the past few weeks. "ac 360" starts right thousand. >> the news tonight, a thundering silence and it's news because it is from a man not associated with it, donald trump. ten other candidates at a conservative forum in greenville, south carolina. a major event in a key primary state with ten candidates trying to make the most of it. donald trump was supposed to be the 11th here and instead at the last minute he pulled out, his campaign saying pressing had come up, a significant business transition with details to follow next week. then radio silence, in the middle of noisy criticism from both sides of the aisle how he handled this question at a town hall last night in new hampshire.
>> problem in this country, it's called muslims. we know our current president is one. you know he's not even an american. >> we need this question. >> but anyway, we have training camps growing where they want to kill us. that's my question. when can we get rid of them? >> we're going to be looking at a lot of different things. a lot of people are saying that and that bad things are happening out there. we're going to look at that and plenty of other things. >> afterwards no comment from the candidate, only a brief comment from his campaign manager telling us that mr. trump did not hear the part that the president is muslim. the media wants to make this an issue about obama, but it's about him waging a war on christianitity. pundits and democrats and republicans were criticizing mr. trump for not doing or saying more. >> he knew or should have known what that man was asking was not only way out of bounds but untrue. he should have from the gunning
repudiated that that rhetoric and that level of hatefulness in a questioner in an audience he was appearing before. i would call on him and call on all of the candidates to stop this descent into the kind of hateful mean spirited divisive rhetoric we have seen too much of in the last months. >> i would tell you if somebody at one of my town hall meetings said something like that, i would correct them and say the president is a christian and born in this country. those two things are self-evident. >> chris christie expected on stage shortly. the candidate not there, joining us from the event, the cancellation by trump, what are you hearing about it. >> reporter: i think there are a number of people here who are disappointed. voters who showed up and hoping to see trump and how he stacked up in a substantive forum like
this. a couple of other folks are saying, look, trump missed out on an opportunity and that's exactly what the head of the south carolina matt moore had to say to me earlier. >> trump was supposed to appear at this event today, he's not here now. what do you make of that? >> it's a bit disappointing, people were excited to see him. any chance to get in front of 5,000, 10,000 people, this is the biggest event in south carolina of this year. i think it's a missed opportunity for him and his campaign. and not many like this in the next few months. so it's a really fluid race. i think coming out of today in south carolina you're going to see candidates, the momentum, he's missing out on that tonight. >> reporter: now, trump is not a candidate nope for shying away from controversy but a couple of folks on ground here said they weren't really buying the idea he canceled to do a business idea and he might have skimmed to avoid taking tough questions.
>> even though he did cancel plenty of other gop candidates have been there and spoken. they are at the event. have they addressed trump's comments at all? >> reporter: the candidates who have taken the stage are not addressing trump's controversy on stage for the most part. ben carson, it's his birthday today and said the best birthday gift he could get is donald trump dropping out at least for a day. this is an opportunity for other folks to see the people they don't see on tv as much and being in this room, carly fiorina is getting a warm reception and ted cruz, a reception earlier this afternoon. >> we appreciate that. to underscore, the campaign is promising details next week. as you might imagine, it's raising questions tonight. dana bash join us now. do we know anything about this alleged business transaction?
>> in a word no, they are being very cagey about it, saying that it is significant as you were talking about with sara and a source close to donald trump said we do expect it to be announced next week. so that is going on there, what you were hearing a report from the crowd -- probably reluctant to jump into the controversy. maybe it's the opposite. he sees this controversy and it's not a bad thing for him politically to stay back and talk about it and continue to discuss it with him without having to change the direction of the -- >> because many supporters believe the president is muslim or muslims in america are a problem? >> possibly some of that. but i think more to the point of the way he approaches voters and
the way he deals with the media. he actually gave an interview right after his speech last night, his town hall to the new york times. in it, he apparently said part of the reason why voters like me is because i don't respond like a regular politician. you heard chris christie say he should have responded today or lindsey graham say he should have responded to like john mccain did in 2008, let's not do that. they like him because he's politically incorrect. there's a lot to be said about not getting out there right away to try to tamp that down. he's going to be in iowa tomorrow. hard to imagine he's not going to talk about it there but for 24 hours, it's kind of incredible when you think about it. all of the talk about somebody not talking. >> we'll see what happens tonight or tomorrow. joining us now jeffrey lord and rich galen. do you believe as a trump supporter that he handled the
question the right way last night? >> you know, i listened to this when i got home from california and listened to this on your show and heard i a replay later than that. when you listen to the questioner, he makes his first business about the muslim, et cetera, et cetera as an assertion but goes into the question about training camps. i don't know whether he's talking about isis style training camps or training camps in america like upstate new york which is as a matter of fact very near my relative's home. i have no idea. but did he handle it right? look, here's the thing i believe about this, anderson and this drives me crazy and a lot of conservatives will be upset with this. when barack obama ran for president everybody discussing his religion. i believe the president is a christian. he was a member of my denomination, united church of christ. the theology is that the members
run the church. president obama sat there with a pastor who is virulently anti-semitic and never fired the pastor. now we're talking about president obama not doing something and gets a pass as a candidate for president. now we're talking about donald trump one minute from a questioner in new hampshire whom he couldn't control, this is going to be seen by conservati e conservativconservativ conservatives as a massive double standard. they hate this stuff out there. >> i hear what you're saying about a double standards. supporters of president obama would say he did repudiate his pastor's statement. >> when he was running for president and that kind of thing, right, but not the day he should have done it. >> the claims, i read them earlier, he hadn't heard that kind of thing from the pulpit. whether or not that's true, you're bringing candidate obama but donald trump on the merits
of this alone as a leader, do you wish he handled this differently, as somebody who supports this man you want him to be president? >> if he -- i don't know what he heard and didn't hear. but if you're saying should he have said the president is a christian. sure, i believe the president is a christian. he was a member of my denomination. i have no question about that. >> i think the bigger issue what the guy said first about the problem in america is muslims. i mean, to -- paint with a broad brush an entire religion of people is -- a big statement. >> right. i would also say, the subtext, what's wrong with being a muslim. let's say the president is saying the guy is a muslim for which i would say so what for the reason you just named. there are plenty of muslims -- >> if the guy had stood up and said you know what the problem in the country is, it's jews or it's black people, would you be
making the same argument that donald trump didn't need to say something to him then? what he said the problem in this country is muslims. >> right. i think maybe he should have answered it. there's no question -- >> five and a half minutes to get there, thank you, jeffrey. >> rich, this is a big -- >> jeffrey, what you're doing in washington, d.c. what jeffrey just did as he well knows it's call deflecting, took the issue and completely turned it around. >> telling truth about the media. >> trump was wrong in not stopping the question immediately. you know it, he knows it, the campaign -- let me finish here. when you go back to that mccain footage from eight years ago, not only did he say he was wrong, he actually took the microphone away from the woman so she couldn't say anything else while he defended the president. this is a completely different situation and shows the inept tud of donald trump, he runs off
and hides. >> political correctness to the max. >> we have to take a quick break and we'll have more on this coming up, later, while neither this subject or this kind of controversy is anything new to donald trump. his record as a birther and what happened when we put his allegations to the test? and the heartbreaking baby doe mystery, we know that poor child's name and name of a murder suspect as well in her tragic death. >> let's go look. come on, let's go.
continuing conversation with jeffrey lord and rich galen. >> we have a problem in this country. it's called muslims. we know our current president is one. >> right. >> you know he's not even an american. >> we need this question. >> but anyway, we have training camps growing where they want to kill us. that's my question. when can we get rid of them? >> we're going to be looking at a lot of different things and lot of people are saying that and bad things are happening out there. we'll look at that and plenty of other things. >> i want to play what rich galen returned to, john mccain in 2008, how he handled the
similar question or comment. >> i don't trust obama. i have read about him and he's not -- he's a -- he's an arab. he's not -- >> no, no ma'am. he's a decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. thank you. >> we haven't heard from you. what do you make of trump's response? >> it's not surprising. this is trump's brand. he came to prominence in this political incarnation, the latest version of donald trump, he was very much a birther. that was his audience. he talked about obama needing to release his birth certificate. once he released it and even before he released it, he kept saying obama probably had something to hide, maybe it was something on his birth certificate about his religion.
it would be off brand in my view for trump to actually pull a john mccain in that instance and correct that questioner there. i think donald trump knows his audience, 43% of republicans think that obama is muslim. so i don't -- i think it would be a surprise if he handled this any differently in my view. this is very much donald trump's brand. he's a stoked this and benefited from a lot of these lies and rumors about barack obama that have been in the political discourse going back to 2008. >> jeffrey, if -- do you think donald trump was playing to those 43% of republicans according to a cnn poll who believe the president obama is a muslim? >> no, you know, you just played the clip again. when you listen to that clip, i think you just clearly zeroed in on the guy's question, which was about the training camp and kind of vague in the answer because frankly the question was hard to
understand. training camps where? did he mean in the middle east or mean here? i certainly didn't understand it hearing it again just now. and i think that's all he did. again, anderson, this is the kind of thing i think is the problem here in the media. is that we take these tiny little sound bytes and make them into manic controversies and this is going to be replaced by something else the next day and next day and next day. meanwhile, you've got people out there who to borrow from chris christie struggling with their lives and jobs and economy and we don't want to go there -- we don't go there enough, with this kind of intensity. we use these as distractions. that to me is the real problem here, well above and beyond this particular situation with donald trump. >> i think it's interesting anderson, that some random guy at a town hall meeting finally flum exed donald trump, when the best interviewers, including
you, couldn't pierce the armor. >> do you know the answer, rich? >> the answer is he shouldn't have ever let him get past the first statement. >> what is the answer to the training camp question? >> i'm not running for president. your guy is running for president. not me. my point is that donald trump is exhausted. i think he wasn't on his game. if he had been rested he would have handled that differently and i'm wondering if he isn't buying something to cover up the fact he was too tired to go to south carolina. >> rich, let me ask you and play devil's advocate, i like to look at things from different angles as much as i can. there's an argument you could say, a trump supporter could say, donald trump is not a career politician. he's probably rarely had town hall meetings where he takes questions like this, he's not used to kind of the types of random people who might stand up and spout off something like
this. he basically just wanted to oh, gosh, this is the first question, let's -- he wanted to get rid of it and move on to something else. should he be held to the same standard as someone who's been a career politician, who's done a million town halls and maybe more experienced with how they handle people? >> what do you think donald trump would say if he decided to build a 150 story office building in manhattan. >> good luck and go to it. >> you idiot, you don't know what you're talking about. that's my answer. >> because he's running for president, you're saying he should be skilled at this. >> yeah, absolutely. this is the other side of not listeninging to people and not wanting to be trained, not wanting -- >> but, jeff, during the campaign that was a big deal through the campaign. the reverend wright thing, you're making it sound -- >> no, it was not. >> it was mentioned every day. >> without bringing other politicians into this, i want to focus on first part of this
guy's question where he said muslims are a problem in america. had this guy stood up and said jews are a problem in america or i'm a muslim and christian are a big problem in this country. >> i'm just saying -- >> he didn't say that. >> if he labeled one other entire religious group as the problem in america, don't you think somebody who -- >> that's right. >> don't you think somebody who wants to be president of the country would move quickly to say you can't paint with a broad brush entire religion? >> anderson, of course, but we're living in a country. this is fact, not my opinion. where every other day we're picking up the newspaper or turning on the television and finding out that some radical islamist is planning to blow up something in america and they got caught. now, that's a problem. >> that's not what this guy is saying. >> this guy is not talking about the problem of radical islam, which is a problem in this country. islam is a problem in this country. >> it sounds like he's conflatting the two.
>> that's whattize doing, conflating all muslims with radical islamists and wouldn't that be a great response for a presidential candidate to say? >> you don't have to run for president -- be an expert -- >> one at a time. nobody can hear you when you talk over each other. >> okay, go ahead. >> we're living in a country where the president and entire administration won't even add knowledge the problem of radical islam. won't even call it by its name. that fuels this kind of thing. >> but the guy who's running for the head of your party who you support, wouldn't you have liked him to have said -- in the ideal world, wouldn't he have just said -- >> anderson, what you're really asking me. >> talking about radical islam. that's the problem in america, not the great majority of muslims. >> let me go back to the question before. >> the subtext, is donald trump a bigot and the answer is no. >> it sounds like he is. >> i'm not raising that but go ahead. >> this is first time he ever
ran for president, maybe he didn't know how to do that. everybody running for the president of their local rotary club would have known to cut that guy off if it was happening in the holiday inn ball room at luncheon friday. you don't have to be a presidential scholar to stop that question in mid stream and trump didn't do it. >> jeffrey lord, i appreciate you being on and rich galen. looking at donald trump's birther claims and big promises about what his investigators were uncovering before president obama produced the birth certificate and proved those claims wrong. working on my feet all day gave me pain here. in my knees. but now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts. now i get immediate relief from my foot pain.
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he doesn't have a birth certificate, he may have one but there's something on that, maybe religion, maybe it says he's a muslim. he might or might not have agreed with the guy that made that first statement last night calling the president a muslim and foreign but he has a history of raising such doubts. he was the best known birther, here he is telling meredith vieira about the team of investigators he sent to hawaii to investigate the president. >> i have people that actually
have been studying it and can not believe what they are finding. >> you have people now down there searching in hawaii? >> absolutely and cannot believe what they are finding. >> to this day there's never been evidence that any trump investigators were that hawaii or what they might have found. we did send someone to hawaii, and gary tuckman, this is what he found. >> the honolulu star bull ten newspaper, in august, 1961, declares mr. and mrs. barak h obama have given birth to a son. a simple birth announcement that has become a web of conspiracy theories. >> i was born in hawaii. >> reporter: was president obama really born in the united states? the answer. yes. >> have you seen barack obama's original birth certificate? >> yes. >> reporter: the former director of the hawaii department of health and devoted republican, until we met with her she had not talked on camera about this
topic. >> as a republican member of the last republican governor of hawaii's cabinet, do you have any doubt that barack obama was born in the united states? >> absolutely not. i have no doubt. >> reporter: she was asked in 2010 to make a statement about the obama birth certificate controversy. birth certificates are sealed but under state law, a public official can look at someone else's certificate if there is a quote direct and tangible interest. she indeed felt she had the direct interest because of the statement she had to make. she found the original birth certificate stored in a vault in the department of health building. >> what did it tell you? was it authentic? >> it was absolutely authentic. he was absolutely born here in the state of hawaii. >> reporter: even if she hadn't seen the original certificate, this document, the computer generated certificate already had proven he's born in hawaii.
there's quite a bit of irony, the original documents are no longer certified by the state. the health department says president obama or any hawaiian could go through the process of getting one but either way, they are no longer supposed to be used for official purposes, own the computer generated ones will do. wanted to see what you get when you ask for hawaii birth certificate. >> death, marriage, birth for us. >> reporter: we met 49-year-old stig vit like and told him he would pay $10 for a new birth certificate. >> we're here to get a birth certificate for stig. >> reporter: we asked him because we saw his announcements in the same newspaper and another newborn, 13 hours earlier, barack obama. >> did you give him the original certificate or computerized copy. >> computerized certificate. >> this is the very same form every ha why wian gets, august
5th, 1961, the date after the president was filed august 8th, 1961. this is a raised seal to show authenticity and perhaps the most important line, the copy serves as prime facie as a fact of birth in any court proceeding. >> reporter: another part of the conspiracy theory, the birth announcement in the paper is a fake planted business hi family or someone else who wanted to trick the family into believing the future president was born in the u.s. a long time newspaper reporter in honolulu. >> there are a number of people who believe barack obama wasn't born in the united states, that his mother or grandmother gave false information. is it possible it could have gotten in the newspaper? >> no, it's not possible. in the system that existed back then, there was no avenue for people to submit information that way. >> how did the information get in the paper? >> it came directly from the state department of health. >> reporter: we confirmed that fact with the health department too. all birth announcements pnted in the paper came directly from
the birth records of the hospital. barack obama not only has the same proof of birth as millions of other hawaiians but the former governor remembers him as a baby. >> sure, of course. >> neil abercrombie met the future president days after he was born because he was close to both of barack obama's parents. he remembers his mother, ann dunham living in hawaii and pregnant and remembers celebrating the birth with his friends the obamas. >> we had no idea at the time that the future president of the united states was that little boy, that little baby. >> reporter: the original long form documents are kept in a vault in this building. no longer certified for official usage according to the state health department. but the former director of the health department felt it was her duty to see the original birth certificate. >> has anyone else lookedty certificate? >> the registrar has seen it as well. >> the registrar. >> >> the chief registrar for
the state, he's the one that took me to see the documents. >> reporter: you are a registered republican? >> at the present time. >> and work for a republican governor? >> yes, i did. >> reporter: still say the birth certificate of the democratic president is authentic? >> absolutely. >> reporter: not surprisingly the former governor agrees. >> would just like to ask people who have this political orientation towards the president, respect us here in hawaii, respect his mother and father. respect the people that i loved and the people that i knew and the little boy who grew up here in paradise and became president. >> very emotional for you. >> thank you, sure it is. >> reporter: it is emotional for many people but emotions and conspiracy theories aside, facts are facts. and the fact is according to all of the evidence, barack obama was born just as the honolulu newspaper announced it in august 1961. gary tuckman, cnn, honolulu. >> that was gary tuckman back
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breaking news in the baby doe miystermystery, tonight we w her name, bella. that's her on the right. the image on the left is the composite drawing by a sketch artist circulated to try to help solve the mystery. you can see the resemblance is striking. in addition to her identity, we know who is responsible for her death. randi kaye has the latest. >> look at momma did while you were sleeping. >> reporter: this was the girl we came to know as baby doe in happier times. august last year, a second birthday party in her honor. now we know her real name. >> what's that, bella. >> reporter: it's bella bond and she sure loved hello kitty.
>> today, 83 days after we found this little girl on the shoreline, we're at last able to speak for baby bella. >> reporter: the girl's body was discovered june 25th. all authorities knew for sure was she hadn't been dead very long and there was no sign of a struggle. they thought she was about 4 years old, hispanic or caucasian. they had no idea who killed her until now. >> in light of the evidence that we have developed, i have authorized the arrest of michael patrick mccarthy, age 35, for bella's murder. >> bella's mother's boyfriend. authorities checked on more than 150 children tipsters thought could have been baby doe. mean while, all this time, she was from right here in dorchester, massachusetts, about 17 miles away from where her body was found. she lived right here in this apartment with her mother.
thursday night the tip investigators had been waiting almost three months for came into the boston police homicide unit. authorities acted quickly, arresting not only mccarthy, but bella's mother too. she's charged as an accessory after the fact. this neighbor said she hadn't seen the little girl in months. >> i assume that these -- had to take custody of her because she had other kids that got taken away. >> reporter: d.c. f did have contact with bella bond four times, as recently as 2013, following complaints of neglect by her mother and that the agency had terminated parental rights for two of her mother's other children years ago. meanwhile, back in june when the girl's body was found, investigators had little to go on. azebra blanket that was with her and polka dot leggings she was wearing. later lab tests concluded pollen on those items came from trees in new england.
baby doe was likely from the area. also, the pollen was mixed with soot, telling investigators her surroundings were somewhat urban. >> we have a very good idea what happened to her based on the evidence. >> reporter: bella's mother's facebook page is filled with love for her daughter. pictures of them snuggling and making pizza and her mother used the #bestgirl, ever. for this picture, my love, my soul, my life, my heartbeats because she's in my world. >> so unthinkable, randi joins us from boston. do we know more about this tip? >> reporter: we don't know any more about the tip, anderson. they talked about it at the press conference today but not giving any more information and won't say who called it in or what the tipster told them. it was enough to deliver the search warrant and make arrest. we should know more at the arraignment. we have a little bit more information about child services. we also learned today that after
the girl's body was discovered on the shore, child services immediately did a sweep of homes in the area that had children matching that age. they only checked open case. her case had been closed even though they were to the house four times and did see neglect, her case was cloegsed. the caseworkers never went back to her house, if they had, they likely would have seen she was missing and had questions for the mother and investigators would have been able to figure out who she was much sooner. at the press conference they weren't faulting the department of children services butside it was an unfortunate circumstance. >> joining me now cnn law enforcement analyst, and missing and exploited children. it's incredible they've been able to identify this little girl and charge someone with the murder. were you surprised that someone hadn't called in a tip sooner? >> sometimes these cases can
take a while. they have to develop. you have to let the investigators do their work. this case had so much media attention that it did surprise me it took quite as long as it did. but it was something that was going to take time to develop. the amount of media attention it got and number of hits we saw on this particular image certainly was key to that process. >> harry, it does seem like a lesson for the future, whether or not the children services should have looked at old cases not just active cases but moving forward for the future, that's hope flip a lesson they will learn. >> without a doubt. what's really per plexing the fact, she had two children taken from her. she wasn't fit enough to be a mother to two children. when she has baby bella, they don't take her away from her. especially when they had more allegations of her being an unfit mother. i think the bureau of child welfare has some -- >> you would think they look into people who had people taken away already and may still have
children, even if it's not an active -- >> but to be fair to them, their caseloads are unbelievable. i thought this was -- when they first found this body, they indicated that's exactly what they were going to do. they were going to check on homes where children to see if they were okay. >> is that something you would recommend for the future? not to be hypercritical of them thus far, but move being forward to look at back cases even if it's not an open case sns. >> it's important to remember that these investigators did a phenomenal job and daunting task and following up on hundreds of leads. as a result of the search for the name of this child and now that we know is bella, they were able to look at several hundred leads. they followed up with other child welfare agencies with agencies outside of the united states and a couple of hundred kids were found to be okay. that's important. so all of this takes time to
develop and as has been said, there are heavy caseloads and trying to get it done. but these folks with ten ashs in their process and everybody plays a part. everybody brings a piece to the table. it's important. that's how we solve these cases. >> michael, no one likes to think a parent is capable of doing this or step parent. you must see this more often than not. we all think about kind of stranger abductions and doing terrible things to children but often it's a member of the family. >> it is or a paramore in the family, someone who has access to the child not necessarily a direct blood relative to the parent. i want to remind you we have 700 other cases that we're looking at that we don't want this momentum to fall away, that we have other cases that we want to bring that type of resolution to. you can go to help me i.d. on facebook page and we can continue to give names to these children and to let there be
justice for these children. >> when you have 700 other cases, you mean you have 700 other unidentified kids? >> that's correct. the unit that i work with is a phenomenal group of folks. >> that's incredible. >> we're taking cases from as far back as the 1960s, continuing to identify the chicago case is going on right now, we have another one out of lake charles, missouri. these are cases that tug at the heart strings of america. we want to make sure this momentum is not lost. i think one of the most important things to remember here is now that bella has a name and now that they know who they are, investigators were able to move forward quickly, they'll be able to bring those to justice that have done this wrong. >> i mean, 700, that's incredible. michael murphy, i appreciate you being with us and harry houck as well. the pope is scheduled to arrive in cuba tomorrow. we'll get a live update from havana next. a lot of daily rituals.
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what is it going to look like? >> reporter: i'll tell you, anderson, it's going to be a really big deal. not just for the people here in cuba, but also for the united states. behind us is old havana. what's going on here is really in real time the past meeting the present and the future. make no mistake pope francis is coming to cuba to shore up the catholic church. they have competition at the same time that the president raul castro administration is allowing religion to have a little bit of a resurgence. he's coming here to shore up his own church and reinforce what he's already done here. this new situation between cuba and the united states, this re-establish. of relations is in no small part because of the efforts of the vatican and this pope. his coming from latin america and his design both with president obama and president
castro, has made this moment possible. the men spoke this morning as you know, big news coming about president obama and president castro speaking about the papal visit, all culminated in pope francis's arrival here tomorrow in havana. it's very interesting. he engineered this. john paul ii brought down the wall and it is said pope francis wants to build a bridge specifically between cuba and the u.s. he's going to come here to havana, it's going to be a huge event in the plaza de revolution and go to the interior in cuba, he's going to these really poverty stricken areas within cuba to be with the regular people and to let people know that he is here to help those who are suffering. then he's going to come to the united states as you well know, anderson. but the key is, when he comes here to havana, it's going to be
a reinforcement of his desire for the church to be strong again but as a manifestation of all of the efforts that has gone on for a couple of years now to stop the the embargo and create relationships between the united states and cuba. it's going to be a very, very big deal. >> a lot of excitement no doubt, both there and here in the united states. chris, thanks very much. we'll watch all weekend long. coming up, something to make you smile, the ridiculous is next. to clean the oceans, to start a movement, or lead a country. it may not be obvious yet, but one of these kids is going to change the world. we just need to make sure she has what she needs. welcome to windows 10. the future starts now for all of us.
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into a new neighborhood for san franciscans. a vote for "yes" on "d" is definitely a vote for more parks and open space. a vote on proposition "d" is a vote for jobs. campos: no one is being displaced. it's 40% affordable units near the waterfront for regular people. this is just a win-win for our city. i'm behind it 100%. voting yes on "d" is so helpful to so many families in our city. it's been a long week, we're starting to ponder the meaning of life and finding answers in the claw machine games where you put your money in and try to grab a prize, which are a metaphor for hopes and dreams then it slips through your grasp and you have a suspicion that
the whole thing is rigged anyway, why bother? happy friday, everyone. the cruelty of the claw game was not a deter ent for two young girls in texas. 6-year-old juliette thought outside the box and got inside the box. >> wanted to get my sister a ball. i had my legs out and then i tried to reach up and get a ball but it didn't work. so i opened the door again, put my whole body in there then i tried to got -- i got balls but i couldn't get out. >> yeah, like a shakes peer yan tragedy playing out, juliette became trapped by her own aspirations. firefighters were someone summoned to help and used quarters before anyone could grab her. i'm just kidding. they lifted little juliette out after which she was promptly
grounded by her mom. in juliette's defense, this began with a dare from her older city katie and wasn't just any dare. >> and i haven't told my mom this yet, maybe it was a double dog dare. >> dang, double dog dare. what choice did she have? i'm not here to encourage children to crawl inside arcade games but it does show something bravery, what's the point of mastering the claw game as it's intended to be played. the only time i've seen it come handy on "arrested development." >> i got you, brother. >> unfortunately, buster's new found skills did not involve lowering gently.
>> so -- oh, buster, what is the lesson here? let's go with be creative and daring and always, always have an escape clause. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. a major gop forum just about to wrap up in south carolina tonight. you can see chris christie on stage speaking now. all of the candidates are there with one big exception though, this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon, donald trump rarely misses a chance to speak to potential voters. but the last time he faced an audience, this happened. >> we have a problem in this country, it's called muslims. we know our current president is one. you know he's not even an american. >> we need this question. >> and the fallout is not over yet.